August 25, 2005

Silicone cookware sucks

I don't really understand why so many people like silicone baking dishes so much. They totally change the characteristics of the baking process, and no matter how much you grease them (and you can't grease them with shortening, you have to use the spray stuff) they still don't let go of your cake or whatever it was you were baking, causing it to break up into several pieces. Lame.

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Posted by blahedo at 5:05pm on 25 Aug 2005 | TrackBack
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I bought a couple of these in Germany because they were novel. My mom seems to have done ok with her rose-shaped cake mold (sorry if this word is spelled differently), but I haven't tried the cupcake tins yet. My german hosts (and now I) also have a flat silicon baking sheet, which seems to work just fine, though it loses the pretty blue color as it gets older. I hope the cupcake dishes don't hold on to my cupcakes like you're describing; I was so excited to get them. Posted by Sue at 3:52pm on 26 Aug 2005
I love cooking with silicone. I never grease the cups, and everything has always popped out with no problems. Before silicone, I used to overcook most everything. And the best part about silicone is that the center and the edges are cooked equally, since the silicone doesn't heat up and overcook the edges of the food like glass or metal pans do. Anyway, You can regain the pretty color of your silicone bakeware by washing it in your dishwasher along with "Plastic Booster" cleaning product. You can find it in the dishwasher cleaning supply section at Wal-Mart,etc. Posted by Deborah at 11:57pm on 23 Oct 2005
silicone sucks, i cooked blueberry muffins in a silicone muffin tray that cost $30 odd and they just fell to bits when they came out. silicone is a waste of money! Posted by Sarah at 10:17pm on 3 Jul 2006
I bought a silicone flan dish in Azerbajan at a third of the price in the UK have onlt used it once but thought it was great cokked to perfection and did not stick wash great in soapy water. Going to take some home to my daughter. Posted by Fay at 12:20am on 21 Sep 2006
its spelt cooked* you fucking loser Posted by tom at 7:34pm on 30 Oct 2006
Tom...here's your quote: its spelt cooked* you fucking loser Before giving someone else an unnecessarily unkind lecture about their spelling and grammar, you may want to correct your own. In your case: "spelt" should be "spelled." Spelt is an ancient grain usually used in baking. "its" should be "it's"...a contraction of the words "it is." You missed the apostrophe. Speaking of "losers" Tom, how are you? Dweeb. Posted by Rose at 3:08am on 2 Dec 2006
I tried cooking with my new silicone loaf pan. It sucks!! It did not cook the center of my bread and it left the sides and top overdone. So much for cooking evenly. I am taking the rest of the pans back to the store and exchanging them for something that actually works! Posted by Debbie at 3:54pm on 3 Jan 2007
Wow there was some language. I want to let everyone know that the silicone that is bought in the store or over the TV does not work. They are all knock offs of a french company called Demarle. The product has been around since 1960. The make a product that works very well, nothing sticks to it unless its undercooked but they clean up very easily with soap and water. It is only sold through direct sales so the customer can understand how to use it. It cooks much better than conventional cookware. It is a silicone and woven glass mix, kosher certified and has a patent. Please do not be fooled by imitators. For more information you can go to www.demarleathome.com. I am a representative for the product but I prefer not to leave my information because of people like tom who scare me. Posted by kariena at 8:22pm on 8 Jan 2007
Hmm. I normally delete spam, but I think the above comment is a pretty reasonable defence against the slugfest this note has turned into. (Aided by the fact that this page is apparently now the #4 google hit for "silicone cookware". Really! Goes to show you just never know where your fifteen minutes will come from.)

That said, I really have no idea what the quality of Demarle's products are, although I will say that the products I used (and was complaining about) were not theirs.

Posted by blahedo at 12:02am on 9 Jan 2007
That stuff sounds like silpat, and indeed, nothing sticks to my silpat. It is great for making tulle cookies. Posted by lee at 11:26am on 9 Jan 2007
I was given a 9x5 loaf pan by my mother and I absolutely love it! I think as with anything else, it is the quality of the brand you choose. Posted by Stephanie at 7:00pm on 7 Oct 2007
I have had nothing but success with my silicon bakeware. I think it's the best thing since bubblegum! Cakes turn out perfectly every time and I have all the different shapes and sizes of tins. These are a baker's dream. Worth every penny, although there is a lot of ripping off on the market. The expensive silicon is no better than the cheaper good quality stuff. I don't have to keep greasing mine either (only for the first use!) and it washes like a dream too. Posted by Cheryl at 7:30am on 27 Oct 2007
Thank you, blahedo, for not deleting the comments. I found your #4 site because I discovered last night, I no longer have a pan suitable for baking brownies. So before investing in yet another aluminum or steel baking pan, I thought I'd see what was in the ether about silicone, as I have been toying w/ the idea of buying some. I found all the comments most helpful. It appears I need to check the quality of the material first, so mail order is out. I like the idea of baked goods being evenly done. Thank you one & all for contributing. Tom can wear a plastic ixing bowl as a hat for the rest of his days. That way we may all recognize & know ignorance when we see it coming. Posted by RozF at 5:16pm on 12 Dec 2007
We bought a muffin set which was a metal frame with removable silicone cups. I also bought mini-bundt cake cups for it. We use the regular for muffins and the bundt cake for fruit cake, I was amazed as the very sticky fruitcake slid out effortlessly from the cups. Posted by Lee Kinkade at 8:17pm on 13 Dec 2007
I bought my mom a set for muffins and mini loafs from wallmart. I found the quality of baking to be pretty good, I wouldn't say it's better or worse than traditional metal. The only thing I noticed was that, since we don't use them often, every time we get them out they are covered in some kind of sticky oil or something. Does anyone know anything about that.

I agree that you need to check the quality before you buy it, or anything for that matter.

Be nice to Tom, I'm sure he's just a self-centered insecure person. Then again he did make fun of a mother for misspelling one word. Posted by allaroundgeek at 8:35pm on 15 Dec 2007
Just looking for help with silicone egg forms (round preferably)and ran across this chat. Quite a hoot. And yes, you should watch your grammer if you are going to bash on others. Anyone have any experience with the little egg/pancake forms? Posted by Tina at 11:28pm on 16 Dec 2007
I find it interesting that so many people have problems with silicone bake ware! I have a ton of different silicone baking objects, such as a 13" x 9", a 9"x9", muffin, and I use a number of silicone spatulas for when I cook. I have yet to have a problem with any of my items, and I use them frequently! I do spray my silicone items tho it says you don't have to. Perhaps its the brand your using? I don't know a lot of different brands but I use a lot of Silicone Zone items. The fact that its silicone shouldn't affect your baking to much, perhaps just alter the time a tad.... Posted by Carrie at 10:21pm on 15 Jan 2008
Just thought I'd help out a little bit, informationwise. I've only recently considered using silicone-based products for cookware, although my knowledge of silicone-based products goes back perhaps 40 years, when I first started receiving literature from Dow Chemical and General Electric. Silicone products were perhaps first used in the Space industry in the form of silicone sealants, which, believe it or not were guaranteed to last 50 years! Over the years I've become acquainted with many other silicone products (by the way 'silicone' is not the same as 'silicon'--although silicone is silicon-based, their chemical properties are quite different). Silicone is a plastic which can be formulated with a variety of additives which will give it properties ranging from liquids to super-flexible rubber-like plastics to very firm rigid plastics. It is normally a non-stick type of compound unless formulated with adhesive qualities, and one of its most noteworthy qualities has always been its ability to withstand both high and low temperatures without degrading in any way. The variety of products it is added to and its variety of applications is far too extensive to list here. It has always been extensively used in medical applications where a flexible, long-lasting and essentially inert compound was need, as in tubing and implants (for many years it was considered among the safest of products to be used within the human body--until all the fuss about breast implants arose). It is impervious to just about all other kinds of chemicals and will probably not deteriorate in a hundred years! It is slowly finding its way into a new generation of innovative applications, replacing many previous products which would deteriorate with time, with a genuinely long lasting and more fault-resistant version. I was personally led to this discussion by watching an infomercial on TV (for Smart Ware--see buysmartware.com), but I have also seen some products on store shelves as well. I have also looked at Silicone Zone products which are listed on amazon.com. I noted that Silicone Zone says their product is 'pure' silicone, while implying that cheaper products contain certain 'fillers' which render them inferior. I don't know about that--additives are often used to change the physical properties of silicone to make it more suitable for a particular use. But they can also be added to make it cheaper (and perhaps less suitable), since silicone is a fairly expensive plastic to begin with. The current wave of silicone-based cooking products take advantage of some of silicone's most noteworthy properties--the ability to withstand extremes of high (and low) temperature without degradation, and not sticking to just about anything (as in burnt cooking residues). I am a little bit skeptical of the claims made that anything 'leaches' from silicone 'rubber' products (regardless of what is said about breast implants), although some of the additives which might be compounded with the silicone might possibly leach. Also I'm fairly certain that most ordinary things that come into contact with silicone-based products will not be absorbed to any significant extent by the silicone. Finally, I am not a shill for the silicone industry--I've just found from experience that silicone-based products do a superior job in a lot of different applications. I haven't actually tried the cookware (yet) but I have a hard time believing (as some claim here) that anything sticks to it. Personally, I'm thinking of trying the so-called 'mats' which can be used to work and roll out pastry dough on. Posted by Jon at 11:58pm on 3 Feb 2008
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